Episode 67: Nice Guy Vs. Tough Guy: On the Fourth Round of Presidential Debates (Also Vote!)

In this episode — the last one before Indonesia’s presidential and legislative elections on April 17 — we discuss the fourth round of presidential debates, which is the last one between Jokowi and Prabowo. This round focused on ideology (specifically, Pancasila), foreign policy, defense, and governance. We talk about how both candidates performed, in particular unpacking their distinctly different visions of Indonesia’s role regionally and globally. We debate the pros and cons of diplomacy and soft power (‘nice guy’ tactics) vs. defense-first and military might (‘tough guy’ tactics) in terms of how to approach Indonesia’s place in the world.

Finally, we look back at the last few months and this election cycle, reflecting on how much has changed since the 2014 presidential elections, when the same two candidates were facing each other for the first time. We urge our listeners, whether you’re in Indonesia or abroad like us, to get informed — not only on the presidential election but also the legislative election — and get ready to vote.

For most Indonesians abroad, you’ll likely be voting on the Saturday before the elections, on April 13th.

For Indonesians in Indonesia, you’ll be voting on Wednesday, April 17th. Get out and vote!

Thanks for listening!

For those interested in learning more about the topic, we’ve provided links to resources as well as other recommended readings.
Pilpres 2019: Apa saja program unggulan para kandidat? — courtesy of BBC Indonesia
Yang perlu Anda ketahui soal Pemilu 2019 — courtesy of BBC Indonesia
Experts respond to Indonesia’s 4th round of presidential debate — courtesy of The Conversation
Pengamat : Jokowi Mirip Ayah Zaman Now, Prabowo Ayah Zaman Dulu — courtesy of TEMPO
Jokowi vs Prabowo Saling Klaim Soal Kekuatan Pertahanan Indonesia — courtesy of Tirto.id
 
Some resources for information on legislative elections:
Komisi Pemilihan Umum: Pileg 2019 — the General Election Commission’s official site on legislative elections
Pintar Memilih — non-partisan informational site supported by Google Indonesia, where you can search candidates by region easily
Calegpedia — non-partisan informational site, where you can see simulations of ballots
 
 
 
MUSIC CREDITS:
SOUL HIGH by RYAN LITTLE
MONTMARTRE by JAHZAAR
NIGHT OWL and THE GREAT by BROKE FOR FREE